http://www.xataka.com/makers/el-cerebro-de-todos-tus-gadgets-puede-caber-en-...
wow, this article has 45 shares and 300 likes on facebook - completely missed it because i'd never heard of xataka before.
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El 9 de julio de 2016 a las 3:02:16, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton (lkcl@lkcl.net) escribió:
http://www.xataka.com/makers/el-cerebro-de-todos-tus-gadgets-puede-caber-en-...
wow, this article has 45 shares and 300 likes on facebook - completely missed it because i'd never heard of xataka before.
Xataka is an important website in Spanish about technology.
From the comments, I see that people think that Allwinner A20
is less powerful and more expensive than Raspberry 3.
There is another who says to launch an EOMA-68 with an Atom (or CoreM). I suppose CoreM is not possible by high consumption. I think that people are not very concerned that Intel, or Windows, or NSA spy on them. They prefer a very powerful processor, although it is not free and spy on them. Usually people think they do nothing illegal with their computers, so people do not care that others spy on them.
If you want, I can answer for you in Spanish. Or tell me what you want to say in English, I translate in Spanish, and you post it on Xataka.
Good luck!
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On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 10:35 AM, GaCuest gacuest@gmail.com wrote:
El 9 de julio de 2016 a las 3:02:16, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton (lkcl@lkcl.net) escribió:
http://www.xataka.com/makers/el-cerebro-de-todos-tus-gadgets-puede-caber-en-...
wow, this article has 45 shares and 300 likes on facebook - completely missed it because i'd never heard of xataka before.
Xataka is an important website in Spanish about technology.
From the comments, I see that people think that Allwinner A20 is less powerful and more expensive than Raspberry 3.
and the rbpi3 is from an unethical company.... i'm not going to start an ethical business by working with unethical companies, am i? that never tends to work out well, does it? :)
There is another who says to launch an EOMA-68 with an Atom (or CoreM). I suppose CoreM is not possible by high consumption.
that and the sheer cost of boards using intel processors is way outside of the current realm of practicality at the moment. it would cost something like $USD 50,000 and we would need to do a minimum production run of 30,000 to justify the cost.
also intel do not provide Reference Designs so the time taken would be 4-6 months, and they do not provide PMIC (Power Management Integrated Circuit) information nor guarantee access to the specialist PMICs. unlike the low-power SoC companies, intel have never really succeeded in this market and one of the things that they do not understand is that you must provide a companion PMIC and guarantee access to it *and* the processor. if a third party refuses to give you PMIC samples, what's the point of having the processor *at all*???
but, intel has now completely given up on the smartphone and tablet market.
later however we will do an EOMA200 small desktop / industrial PC but that is a radically different proposition.
I think that people are not very concerned that Intel, or Windows, or NSA spy on them. They prefer a very powerful processor, although it is not free and spy on them. Usually people think they do nothing illegal with their computers, so people do not care that others spy on them.
... until their bank account information is held to ransom by mafia groups. it's not just the NSA: it's powerful groups with ties to governments whose capability to break RSA 2048 bit private keys is unknown. remember: the "security nightmare" for intelligence communities is not what's *known* to be insecure (because you can plan for that), it's what's *NOT* known to be insecure that keeps them awake at night.
remember *also* that i have word from a friend who is studying mathematics, he hasn't been able to release the paper because he is concerned for his life, but he has discovered a way to test for prime numbers based around the riemann-zeta function, using a recursive algorithm that uses arithmetic shift, multiplication and addition/subtract - NO DIVISION. it can test for primality in something like O(N log N) where current tests are.... O( N ^ 2 ) or something like that. so if he knows how to do it, you can *guarantee* that it's a technique that's *already* been discovered a hell of a long time ago.
If you want, I can answer for you in Spanish. Or tell me what you want to say in English, I translate in Spanish, and you post it on Xataka.
if you could check and add the above i'd be really grateful
El 9 de julio de 2016 a las 16:56:22, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton (lkcl@lkcl.net) escribió:
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On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 10:35 AM, GaCuest wrote:
El 9 de julio de 2016 a las 3:02:16, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton (lkcl@lkcl.net) escribió:
http://www.xataka.com/makers/el-cerebro-de-todos-tus-gadgets-puede-caber-en-...
wow, this article has 45 shares and 300 likes on facebook - completely missed it because i'd never heard of xataka before.
Xataka is an important website in Spanish about technology.
From the comments, I see that people think that Allwinner A20 is less powerful and more expensive than Raspberry 3.
and the rbpi3 is from an unethical company.... i'm not going to start an ethical business by working with unethical companies, am i? that never tends to work out well, does it? :)
I understand you perfectly. The problem is that ordinary people does not care that (sadly). For most people, Raspberry is one of the freest (and ethical) devices.
There is another who says to launch an EOMA-68 with an Atom (or CoreM). I suppose CoreM is not possible by high consumption.
that and the sheer cost of boards using intel processors is way outside of the current realm of practicality at the moment. it would cost something like $USD 50,000 and we would need to do a minimum production run of 30,000 to justify the cost.
also intel do not provide Reference Designs so the time taken would be 4-6 months, and they do not provide PMIC (Power Management Integrated Circuit) information nor guarantee access to the specialist PMICs. unlike the low-power SoC companies, intel have never really succeeded in this market and one of the things that they do not understand is that you must provide a companion PMIC and guarantee access to it *and* the processor. if a third party refuses to give you PMIC samples, what's the point of having the processor *at all*???
but, intel has now completely given up on the smartphone and tablet market.
I think Intel still sell z8750 and z8700. For example, GPD Win has it.
later however we will do an EOMA200 small desktop / industrial PC but that is a radically different proposition.
I think that people are not very concerned that Intel, or Windows, or NSA spy on them. They prefer a very powerful processor, although it is not free and spy on them. Usually people think they do nothing illegal with their computers, so people do not care that others spy on them.
... until their bank account information is held to ransom by mafia groups. it's not just the NSA: it's powerful groups with ties to governments whose capability to break RSA 2048 bit private keys is unknown. remember: the "security nightmare" for intelligence communities is not what's *known* to be insecure (because you can plan for that), it's what's *NOT* known to be insecure that keeps them awake at night.
The problem is that is secondary for most people. Most people want a device with a lot of power, that costs little money, and have a beautiful OS with many applications/games. And with much marketing.
remember *also* that i have word from a friend who is studying mathematics, he hasn't been able to release the paper because he is concerned for his life, but he has discovered a way to test for prime numbers based around the riemann-zeta function, using a recursive algorithm that uses arithmetic shift, multiplication and addition/subtract - NO DIVISION. it can test for primality in something like O(N log N) where current tests are.... O( N ^ 2 ) or something like that. so if he knows how to do it, you can *guarantee* that it's a technique that's *already* been discovered a hell of a long time ago.
If you want, I can answer for you in Spanish. Or tell me what you want to say in English, I translate in Spanish, and you post it on Xataka.
if you could check and add the above i'd be really grateful
I have already posted some comments on Xataka. If you need something else in Spanish, let me know.
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 6:58 PM, GaCuest gacuest@gmail.com wrote:
I think Intel still sell z8750 and z8700. For example, GPD Win has it.
nnope! those are too much power and they are only available in limited quantities for extremely short time periods. i.e. they do *one* production run, once those are out, that's it, game over.
I have already posted some comments on Xataka. If you need something else in Spanish, let me know.
looks really good.
l.
El 9 de julio de 2016 a las 22:44:54, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton (lkcl@lkcl.net) escribió:
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On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 6:58 PM, GaCuest wrote:
I think Intel still sell z8750 and z8700. For example, GPD Win has it.
nnope! those are too much power and they are only available in limited quantities for extremely short time periods. i.e. they do *one* production run, once those are out, that's it, game over.
Ok thanks for the information. I have seen many new products with z8750 and had that doubt. In fact, they say that they use z8750 because z8300 and z8500 are discontinued. This is the case of PGS Lab (although this would be another interesting topic, an unknown company, whose prototype is a Surface with an iPega controller, which has sold over 300k $, I suppose that doing good renderings and good promises makes you sell a lot).
I have already posted some comments on Xataka. If you need something else in Spanish, let me know.
looks really good.
I am Spanish, so for me it is much easier to write in Spanish (and better) than in English, so no problem.
If you need anything else (now or in the future), let me know.
l.
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On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 10:15 PM, GaCuest gacuest@gmail.com wrote:
El 9 de julio de 2016 a las 22:44:54, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton (lkcl@lkcl.net) escribió:
crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 6:58 PM, GaCuest wrote:
I think Intel still sell z8750 and z8700. For example, GPD Win has it.
nnope! those are too much power and they are only available in limited quantities for extremely short time periods. i.e. they do *one* production run, once those are out, that's it, game over.
Ok thanks for the information. I have seen many new products with z8750 and had that doubt. In fact, they say that they use z8750 because z8300 and z8500 are discontinued. This is the case of PGS Lab (although this would be another interesting topic, an unknown company, whose prototype is a Surface with an iPega controller, which has sold over 300k $, I suppose that doing good renderings and good promises makes you sell a lot).
http://ark.intel.com/products/93362/Intel-Atom-x7-Z8750-Processor-2M-Cache-u...
UTFCA BGA 1380 and only 17mm on a side holy F*** that's insane. so that's around 0.4mm pitch BGA ball pads are they out of their tiny f*****g minds?? how the hell is *any* PCB or assembly factory going to cope with that?? it'll need something insane like 1.5 mil tracks and 12 layer PCB designs.
intel's designers are completely out of their f*****g minds.
other than that, the scenario design power (scenario - not max) looks like it could be okay.
sooo now all we need is access to the PMIC associated with it, full set of Reference Designs, the backdoor processor instruction set and the RSA Secret Key that allows us to guarantee that there's no spyware running on the backdoor co-processor.
not much to ask, eh?
I have already posted some comments on Xataka. If you need something else in Spanish, let me know.
looks really good.
I am Spanish, so for me it is much easier to write in Spanish (and better) than in English, so no problem.
If you need anything else (now or in the future), let me know.
thanks.
just occurred to me, might be a good idea to quote benjamin franklin, if i put these words could you explain it in spanish, gacuest?
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
El 10 de julio de 2016 a las 0:32:42, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton (lkcl@lkcl.net) escribió:
just occurred to me, might be a good idea to quote benjamin franklin, if i put these words could you explain it in spanish, gacuest?
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
"Aquellos que renunciarían a una libertad esencial para comprar un poco de seguridad temporal, no merecen ni libertad ni seguridad."
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On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 11:44 PM, GaCuest gacuest@gmail.com wrote:
El 10 de julio de 2016 a las 0:32:42, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton (lkcl@lkcl.net) escribió:
just occurred to me, might be a good idea to quote benjamin franklin, if i put these words could you explain it in spanish, gacuest?
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
"Aquellos que renunciarían a una libertad esencial para comprar un poco de seguridad temporal, no merecen ni libertad ni seguridad."
awesome, posted
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