From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton lkcl@lkcl.netApparently from: arm-netbook-
On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 6:35 PM, ronwirring@safe-mail.net wrote:
do you, through not listening to what you are being told, *genuinely* wish to force me to take such action?
No. I maintain that I prefer an email to display all previous pieces of information.
On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 6:35 PM, ronwirring@safe-mail.net wrote:
No. I maintain that I prefer an email to display all previous
No doubt you do, but this is a community. “Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.” - Spock
Luke - I would be grateful if you could reduce the members on this list to those who can follow the RFC.
On 06/18/2017 04:59 PM, Brendan Sleight wrote:
On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 6:35 PM, ronwirring@safe-mail.net wrote:
No. I maintain that I prefer an email to display all previous
No doubt you do, but this is a community. “Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.” - Spock
Luke - I would be grateful if you could reduce the members on this list to those who can follow the RFC.
I will follow the rules now if you want, I just didn't know what they all were. That's all.
I should only keep previous messages that are relevant right?
Just clarifying.
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On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 5:08 PM, zap calmstorm@posteo.de wrote:
On 06/18/2017 04:59 PM, Brendan Sleight wrote:
On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 6:35 PM, ronwirring@safe-mail.net wrote:
No. I maintain that I prefer an email to display all previous
No doubt you do, but this is a community. “Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.” - Spock
Luke - I would be grateful if you could reduce the members on this list to those who can follow the RFC.
I will follow the rules now if you want, I just didn't know what they all were. That's all.
no problem zap.
btw zap also didn't remove extraneous context (in his last message to the list) so i asked him also to respect context-cutting (aka "trimming"):
http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php#toppost
Posting a "me too" comment at the bottom of a 100+ line message is no better because people have to scroll all the way down through 100+ lines they've already read in order to see your one-liner. One word comes to mind for that: frustrating.
The generally accepted "right way" of doing things is called "inline posting", whereby you insert your comments straight after that on which you are commenting, having stripped unnecessary text from the original quoted text. The end result is something which makes much more sense because it reads like a conversation.
I should only keep previous messages that are relevant right?
previous *bits* of a message that are relevant: it's called "trimming".
thanks for agreeing to follow the rules.
ron: if zap can agree immediately once he understands that it's inconveniencing people, is there a good reason (which benefits the project) why you do not wish to?
l.
+1 and kudos to people agreeing to follow the netiquette & ML posting rules.
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton lkcl@lkcl.net wrote:
The generally accepted "right way" of doing things is called "inline posting", whereby you insert your comments straight after that on which you are commenting, having stripped unnecessary text from the original quoted text. The end result is something which makes much more sense because it reads like a conversation.
I'd add that you should also put a blank line between the context you keep (the quote) and your answer / reaction to it, as that is also helpful to make it more quickly readable by others.
Thanks
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Vincent Legoll vincent.legoll@gmail.com wrote:
+1 and kudos to people agreeing to follow the netiquette & ML posting rules.
[snipped unnecessary context and adding this sentence to indicate that that action has been taken]
I'd add that you should also put a blank line between the context you keep (the quote) and your answer / reaction to it, as that is also helpful to make it more quickly readable by others.
ah! yeah i do that so automatically that i forgot about it.
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 05:50:47PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
[snipped unnecessary context and adding this sentence to indicate that that action has been taken]
Is an indicator like above the preferred way on this list to show a part of the message has been trimmed? I am asking because I usually trim messages when replying but did not insert such markers in square brackets.
kind regards Pablo
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Pablo Rath pablo@parobalth.org wrote:
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 05:50:47PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
[snipped unnecessary context and adding this sentence to indicate that that action has been taken]
Is an indicator like above the preferred way on this list to show a part of the message has been trimmed?
i've seen people use it on other lists and conversations, it's not very common. i am ambivalent (no preference).
I am asking because I usually trim messages when replying but did not insert such markers in square brackets.
the only reason i did it here was to demonstrate and highlight the practice *of* being courteous to other people by trimming unnecessary context.
that's what this is really all about: ron sadly demonstrated a complete disregard for other people by indicating that his own personal preferences for composing and replying are more important... even when told (repeatedly) that putting other people to inconvenience is not acceptable.
l.
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 01:02:09PM +0200, Pablo Rath wrote:
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 05:50:47PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
... ...
I am asking because I usually trim messages when replying but did not insert such markers in square brackets.
I usually mark it with unquoted ellipses, as above.
-- hendrik
On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 9:09 PM, ronwirring@safe-mail.net wrote:
do you, through not listening to what you are being told, *genuinely* wish to force me to take such action?
No. I maintain that I prefer an email to display all previous pieces of information.
ah. *deep breath*. i'm very very sorry to have to inform you ron that you don't have thar right. you as well as everyone else are guests of this list.
so it is with deep regret that your answer forces me to place your email address under moderation until you can agree to the rules of the list.
l.
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