Hello,
Thanks once again for another update on the progress being made with the different boards:
https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/updates/2-7-5-cards-under-w...
It must be frustrating to encounter production issues (with the Micro Desktop), but I imagine that such things are only avoidable with enough experience of the relevant processes. I suppose that the only way to deal with them is to take the lesson along for next time, pretty much as is noted in the update.
Meanwhile, it sounds like the computer cards are waiting for components before being assembled, so we should remain hopeful that their production is more straightforward. It will be interesting to read the next update, certainly.
Paul
On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 9:59 PM Paul Boddie paul@boddie.org.uk wrote:
Hello,
Thanks once again for another update on the progress being made with the different boards:
https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/updates/2-7-5-cards-under-w...
gotta love the help from intel... :)
It must be frustrating to encounter production issues (with the Micro Desktop), but I imagine that such things are only avoidable with enough experience of the relevant processes. I suppose that the only way to deal with them is to take the lesson along for next time, pretty much as is noted in the update.
.... yep :) the good news is, the dev-process issues are resolved, production just rolls off the assembly line.
Meanwhile, it sounds like the computer cards are waiting for components before being assembled, so we should remain hopeful that their production is more straightforward. It will be interesting to read the next update, certainly.
hope so.
btw, i meant to ask you, paul: would you like to be the person that applies for the NLnet Grant? (and then subsequently acts as the coordinator)?
l.
On Sunday 5. May 2019 22.02.09 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
.... yep :) the good news is, the dev-process issues are resolved, production just rolls off the assembly line.
Great!
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btw, i meant to ask you, paul: would you like to be the person that applies for the NLnet Grant? (and then subsequently acts as the coordinator)?
I'm not sure I'd be comfortable doing so, not least because I don't think I have the skill set for managing something like this, and I also don't have the kind of background for working with grants, applications and the accompanying paperwork. I have worked with people who have been involved with such things in academia, and my impression is that experience with these processes counts for a lot.
Maybe there are people you know with more experience with such matters, also with project management experience in the hardware domain, who might be worth approaching. I also imagine that you would really want someone closer to the action than people like me watching the action from several time zones away.
Paul
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On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 11:49 PM Paul Boddie paul@boddie.org.uk wrote:
On Sunday 5. May 2019 22.02.09 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
.... yep :) the good news is, the dev-process issues are resolved, production just rolls off the assembly line.
Great!
[...]
btw, i meant to ask you, paul: would you like to be the person that applies for the NLnet Grant? (and then subsequently acts as the coordinator)?
I'm not sure I'd be comfortable doing so, not least because I don't think I have the skill set for managing something like this, and I also don't have the kind of background for working with grants, applications and the accompanying paperwork. I have worked with people who have been involved with such things in academia, and my impression is that experience with these processes counts for a lot.
not in this case: the application was only rejected because the NLnet Foundation needed to tick a single box, "you're one person applying for 2 projects, and we have a 1st-project-1st-application limit of EUR $50k. is there a 2nd person, living in the EU, who could be the front-man, for... um.... EU-bureaucracy-satisfying-political-reasons, kinda thing?"
Maybe there are people you know with more experience with such matters, also with project management experience in the hardware domain, who might be worth approaching. I also imagine that you would really want someone closer to the action than people like me watching the action from several time zones away.
mmm... again.... no, not really :) and it's more that you're an advocate for success, and your reputation in the software libre world, that matters more.
l.
On Monday 6. May 2019 02.56.03 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
not in this case: the application was only rejected because the NLnet Foundation needed to tick a single box, "you're one person applying for 2 projects, and we have a 1st-project-1st-application limit of EUR $50k. is there a 2nd person, living in the EU, who could be the front-man, for... um.... EU-bureaucracy-satisfying-political-reasons, kinda thing?"
Well, I don't think I would feel comfortable putting my name on an application just to enable it to navigate the bureaucracy. Although I am familiar with this initiative, I am just like many of the other people on this list who are supporters of it, in one way or another. It would feel dishonest for me to act as a kind of front figure, especially because that is precisely how I would perceive my own involvement.
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mmm... again.... no, not really :) and it's more that you're an advocate for success, and your reputation in the software libre world, that matters more.
There must be others you have been working with who might satisfy the requirements. I might also add that I am living in an EEA country that is not in the EU. I doubt that this would make a huge difference, but it is still worth noting. Of course, were I living in my country of birth, it would be anyone's guess as to how long I and my fellow residents might have left in the EU thanks to factors beyond my control, but that is another sordid story.
As far as reputations go, I don't have any notion of what mine is, besides me writing a fair amount on a selection of different topics. But I would hope that being somewhat independent from particular initiatives might be a part of it.
We both have some familiarity with one individual - you more than I, in fact - who had a reputation for frequently communicating with their audience, having some kind of following and far more influence than I might have. But after some unfortunate outcomes with projects, including one which saw $100000 go via a crowdfunding platform into a Swiss bank account where it has been resting ever since, we don't hear very much from them any more. (Note that I don't blame that individual for the continuing inactivity of that sum of money, but their reputation has not exactly blossomed as a consequence.)
I do want to see this initiative deliver results because this would empower everyone who has been waiting for those results. After all, the initial campaign is, and was always going to be, the start of something more significant. But my role in this initiative is not significant enough for me to act in any official capacity, sad to say.
Paul
On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 6:00 PM Paul Boddie paul@boddie.org.uk wrote:
On Monday 6. May 2019 02.56.03 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
not in this case: the application was only rejected because the NLnet Foundation needed to tick a single box, "you're one person applying for 2 projects, and we have a 1st-project-1st-application limit of EUR $50k. is there a 2nd person, living in the EU, who could be the front-man, for... um.... EU-bureaucracy-satisfying-political-reasons, kinda thing?"
Well, I don't think I would feel comfortable putting my name on an application just to enable it to navigate the bureaucracy. Although I am familiar with this initiative, I am just like many of the other people on this list who are supporters of it, in one way or another. It would feel dishonest for me to act as a kind of front figure, especially because that is precisely how I would perceive my own involvement.
ok. no problem.
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mmm... again.... no, not really :) and it's more that you're an advocate for success, and your reputation in the software libre world, that matters more.
There must be others you have been working with who might satisfy the requirements.
this may come as a surprise: i am so focussed on what i do, for such prolonged periods of time, that i actually know very few people. plus, olimex ****'d the project's reputation with the sunxi community (lied to them about the contents of private conversations), setting it back about 3 years in the process.
I might also add that I am living in an EEA country that is not in the EU. I doubt that this would make a huge difference, but it is still worth noting. Of course, were I living in my country of birth, it would be anyone's guess as to how long I and my fellow residents might have left in the EU thanks to factors beyond my control, but that is another sordid story.
:)
i'm based in taiwan, now, however by giving my mum's address, as a UK citizen this was acceptable :)
As far as reputations go, I don't have any notion of what mine is, besides me writing a fair amount on a selection of different topics. But I would hope that being somewhat independent from particular initiatives might be a part of it.
which is precisely why i thought you may be able to help... no worries.
We both have some familiarity with one individual - you more than I, in fact - who had a reputation for frequently communicating with their audience, having some kind of following and far more influence than I might have. But after some unfortunate outcomes with projects, including one which saw $100000 go via a crowdfunding platform into a Swiss bank account where it has been resting ever since, we don't hear very much from them any more. (Note that I don't blame that individual for the continuing inactivity of that sum of money, but their reputation has not exactly blossomed as a consequence.)
*sigh*... y'know... the people that tend to cross me tend to do so because they know that i can see right through them. at one job, one person who treated me badly, i accidentally ended out shouting "this person's a thief and a liar!" and the boss had to demand that i apologise. two years later he called me up and said, "you were right: i caught him helping himself to the cash register and the tools from the shop"....
I do want to see this initiative deliver results because this would empower everyone who has been waiting for those results. After all, the initial campaign is, and was always going to be, the start of something more significant. But my role in this initiative is not significant enough for me to act in any official capacity, sad to say.
no problem paul.
i have two long-standing friends from UKUUG days who might be willing to help, i can ask them.
l.
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