Hello Luke
I have questions:
Whrere is the OS which is delivered with thwe eoma68 stored? Surely one can update it and install additional software?
Can I boot different OSs?
Which Kernel will be delivered? I see, that you are trying the 4.7 kernel?
Will it be possible to activate the 3D acceleration on the debian card?
Thanks in advance.
Wolfgang
Hi Wolfgang!
* Wolfgang Romey (hier) hier@wolfgangromey.de [160804 14:32]:
Whrere is the OS which is delivered with thwe eoma68 stored? Surely one can update it and install additional software?
Either on the SD card or on the flash.
Can I boot different OSs?
Of course! This is a free device and you can install whatever happens to run on the A20. Have a look at the updates section where Luke has demonstrated different OSs running on the card already.
Which Kernel will be delivered? I see, that you are trying the 4.7 kernel?
Whatever is stable at the moment of shipment I guess.
Will it be possible to activate the 3D acceleration on the debian card?
In principle on both cards as they are identical hardware wise. But you will need access to a proprietary driver that is not part of the software package.
Kind regards,
Christian
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On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Christian Kellermann ckeen@pestilenz.org wrote:
Hi Wolfgang!
- Wolfgang Romey (hier) hier@wolfgangromey.de [160804 14:32]:
Whrere is the OS which is delivered with thwe eoma68 stored? Surely one can update it and install additional software?
Either on the SD card or on the flash.
Can I boot different OSs?
Of course! This is a free device and you can install whatever happens to run on the A20. Have a look at the updates section where Luke has demonstrated different OSs running on the card already.
Which Kernel will be delivered? I see, that you are trying the 4.7 kernel?
Whatever is stable at the moment of shipment I guess.
Will it be possible to activate the 3D acceleration on the debian card?
In principle on both cards as they are identical hardware wise. But you will need access to a proprietary driver that is not part of the software package.
Kind regards,
Christian
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Hello Christian,
Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 15:07:28 schrieb Christian Kellermann:
Can I boot different OSs?
Of course! This is a free device and you can install whatever happens to run on the A20. Have a look at the updates section where Luke has demonstrated different OSs running on the card already.
I did not made clear, that I asked for a double boot system: Parabola from the NAND and debian from the SD-Card for example (and sugar-OS from another card). Or is double-boot from one sd-card possible?
Will it be possible to activate the 3D acceleration on the debian card?
In principle on both cards as they are identical hardware wise. But you will need access to a proprietary driver that is not part of the software package.
I think, in debian I could find that proprietary driver in debian non-free. That seems to the reason, why luke cannot get the RYF certification for the debian card.
Wolfgang
* Wolfgang Romey hier@wolfgangromey.de [160804 16:17]:
Hello Christian,
Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 15:07:28 schrieb Christian Kellermann:
Can I boot different OSs?
Of course! This is a free device and you can install whatever happens to run on the A20. Have a look at the updates section where Luke has demonstrated different OSs running on the card already.
I did not made clear, that I asked for a double boot system: Parabola from the NAND and debian from the SD-Card for example (and sugar-OS from another card). Or is double-boot from one sd-card possible?
Whatever you tell U-Boot to boot will be possible. Given the sices of the SD cards available the possibilities are (not really) endless. Although there is no smooth boot selection menu as known by other systems (You'd have to code that yourself).
The boot order of the NAND and SD Card depends on the settings of the ROM code. IDK whether that's been changable easily. But I think the SD card gets preferred so whatever U-Boot you start from there will be able to also boot from NAND...
Am I making sense to you?
Cheers,
Christian
-- May you be peaceful, may you live in safety, may you be free from suffering, and may you live with ease.
* Christian Kellermann ckeen@pestilenz.org [160804 16:21]:
- Wolfgang Romey hier@wolfgangromey.de [160804 16:17]:
Hello Christian,
Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 15:07:28 schrieb Christian Kellermann:
Can I boot different OSs?
Of course! This is a free device and you can install whatever happens to run on the A20. Have a look at the updates section where Luke has demonstrated different OSs running on the card already.
I did not made clear, that I asked for a double boot system: Parabola from the NAND and debian from the SD-Card for example (and sugar-OS from another card). Or is double-boot from one sd-card possible?
Whatever you tell U-Boot to boot will be possible. Given the sices of the SD cards available the possibilities are (not really) endless. Although there is no smooth boot selection menu as known by other systems (You'd have to code that yourself).
The boot order of the NAND and SD Card depends on the settings of the ROM code. IDK whether that's been changable easily. But I think the SD card gets preferred so whatever U-Boot you start from there will be able to also boot from NAND...
One could probably use a bootmenu like this: http://lightofdawn.org/wiki/wiki.cgi/KexecBootMenu
HTH,
Christian
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On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Christian Kellermann ckeen@pestilenz.org wrote:
One could probably use a bootmenu like this: http://lightofdawn.org/wiki/wiki.cgi/KexecBootMenu
ahhh i like kexec. been meaning to investigate it.
On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 16:21:01 +0200 Christian Kellermann ckeen@pestilenz.org wrote:
Whatever you tell U-Boot to boot will be possible. Given the sices of the SD cards available the possibilities are (not really) endless. Although there is no smooth boot selection menu as known by other systems (You'd have to code that yourself).
There is support for chainloading grub 2 from u-boot, which would then give a pretty menu and the usual things. Haven't used it myself though.
- Lauri
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On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Lauri Kasanen cand@gmx.com wrote:
On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 16:21:01 +0200 Christian Kellermann ckeen@pestilenz.org wrote:
Whatever you tell U-Boot to boot will be possible. Given the sices of the SD cards available the possibilities are (not really) endless. Although there is no smooth boot selection menu as known by other systems (You'd have to code that yourself).
There is support for chainloading grub 2 from u-boot, which would then give a pretty menu and the usual things. Haven't used it myself though.
for ARM? if so.... cool!
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On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Wolfgang Romey hier@wolfgangromey.de wrote:
Hello Christian,
Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 15:07:28 schrieb Christian Kellermann:
Can I boot different OSs?
Of course! This is a free device and you can install whatever happens to run on the A20. Have a look at the updates section where Luke has demonstrated different OSs running on the card already.
I did not made clear, that I asked for a double boot system: Parabola from the NAND and debian from the SD-Card for example (and sugar-OS from another card). Or is double-boot from one sd-card possible?
ok yes that happens automatically due to the boot-ROM on the A20. first it looks for MicroSD, if that's not there it looks for NAND.
yes you could double-boot from one sd-card, you'd be using u-boot to do it, and you'd need to be doing it by command-line but it's perfectly possible.
Will it be possible to activate the 3D acceleration on the debian card?
In principle on both cards as they are identical hardware wise. But you will need access to a proprietary driver that is not part of the software package.
I think, in debian I could find that proprietary driver in debian non-free. That seems to the reason, why luke cannot get the RYF certification for the debian card.
correct.
l.
Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 15:31:37 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton:
ok yes that happens automatically due to the boot-ROM on the A20. first it looks for MicroSD, if that's not there it looks for NAND.
I think than it would be better to have different system on different card. But the importand thing is, that multiboot works.
Thanx
Wolfgang
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On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Wolfgang Romey hier@wolfgangromey.de wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 15:31:37 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton:
ok yes that happens automatically due to the boot-ROM on the A20. first it looks for MicroSD, if that's not there it looks for NAND.
I think than it would be better to have different system on different card. But the importand thing is, that multiboot works.
follow the link chain here http://linux-sunxi.org/BROM
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On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Wolfgang Romey (hier) hier@wolfgangromey.de wrote:
Hello Luke
I have questions:
Whrere is the OS which is delivered with thwe eoma68 stored?
right now probably on a 4 or 8gb micro-sd unless i have time to test NAND and be happy with it. people can always follow instructions online to put it on NAND themselves.
Surely one can update it and install additional software?
yes
Can I boot different OSs?
yes
Which Kernel will be delivered? I see, that you are trying the 4.7 kernel?
3.4 is stable. 4.7 is turning out not to be.
Will it be possible to activate the 3D acceleration on the debian card?
yes - not recommended, but follow instructions online.
Hi Luke,
Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 14:55:02 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton:
right now probably on a 4 or 8gb micro-sd unless i have time to test NAND and be happy with it. people can always follow instructions online to put it on NAND themselves.
If it is on the NAND, can I update it? I am used to update my debian-stretch nearly every day.
Surely one can update it and install additional software?
yes
On the NAND too?
Can I boot different OSs?
yes
As you see in my other Email, I meant multiboot.
Which Kernel will be delivered? I see, that you are trying the 4.7 kernel?
3.4 is stable. 4.7 is turning out not to be.
Hopefully in march 2017 it is.
Will it be possible to activate the 3D acceleration on the debian card?
yes - not recommended, but follow instructions online.
Of course, as it is non free.
Thank you.
Wolfgang
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On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Wolfgang Romey hier@wolfgangromey.de wrote:
Hi Luke,
Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016, 14:55:02 schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton:
right now probably on a 4 or 8gb micro-sd unless i have time to test NAND and be happy with it. people can always follow instructions online to put it on NAND themselves.
If it is on the NAND, can I update it?
of course. there are instructions online. look up "cubian" and "nandinstall". it's a little obscure, but doable.
I am used to update my debian-stretch nearly every day.
yeah do watch out for that. do consider setting up "read-only rootfs" - again, instructions to do that are online. several people have done it.
Surely one can update it and install additional software?
yes
On the NAND too?
of course
l.
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