for those people who are interested, i've sent an update to crowdsupply and another one today about shenzen.
joe, you're right: internet connectivity between china and the rest of the world is massively-truncated. the effect is quite dramatic and goes a long way to explaining the entire economic situation here. businesses can't do business, basically.
have found some parts suppliers, they're documented here http://rhombus-tech.net/suppliers/shenzen/
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Hmmm...
I believe the connectivity problem is down to the vast numbers of windumb botnets trying to get traffic in and out of CN and most of the Far East nations through international links. (Wireshark will verify that.)
Got a site that isn't live yet but the bot traffic from EC2 (Amzn) is just amazing - its all scripted and timed - you would think the ISPs and server space providers would block the URLs based on known attack pattern and get rid of this traffic to free up the international links by now :(
Anyway to business - the business cards you are uploading are bad resolution - a sub $200 4G phone can over fix that. Amazon CN deliver twice per day :)
If you can get to the Shenzhen SEG market - very tall building. Big adventure in there. If you want best prices for low tech items such as connectors, capacitors etc, stand outside the SEG building at the busiest traffic street corner that faces the SEG building entrance. Then look left and see obscure looking low rise building. Cross road and go to the ground floor and never look back. Its tech nirvana in there. Need 2 or more days to look over it.
On Thu, 2016-10-06 at 05:46 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
for those people who are interested, i've sent an update to crowdsupply and another one today about shenzen.
joe, you're right: internet connectivity between china and the rest of the world is massively-truncated. the effect is quite dramatic and goes a long way to explaining the entire economic situation here. businesses can't do business, basically.
have found some parts suppliers, they're documented here http://rhombus-tech.net/suppliers/shenzen/
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On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 3:12 PM, joem joem@martindale-electric.co.uk wrote:
Hmmm...
I believe the connectivity problem is down to the vast numbers of windumb botnets trying to get traffic in and out of CN and most of the Far East nations through international links. (Wireshark will verify that.)
oo that's bad....
Got a site that isn't live yet but the bot traffic from EC2 (Amzn) is just amazing - its all scripted and timed - you would think the ISPs and server space providers would block the URLs based on known attack pattern and get rid of this traffic to free up the international links by now :(
jaezuss.
Anyway to business - the business cards you are uploading are bad resolution - a sub $200 4G phone can over fix that. Amazon CN deliver twice per day :)
does it come unlocked, support total replacement of the OS down to the bedrock, and provide the full source of all firmware for all on-board ICs? i know the answer's no, so I won't be getting one.
If you can get to the Shenzhen SEG market - very tall building. Big adventure in there. If you want best prices for low tech items such as connectors, capacitors etc, stand outside the SEG building at the busiest traffic street corner that faces the SEG building entrance. Then look left and see obscure looking low rise building. Cross road and go to the ground floor and never look back. Its tech nirvana in there. Need 2 or more days to look over it.
honestly, i'm done. the ladies from jihang, as mike explained today, appear to be part of a.. what's the word... there's many groups of people like them - a cooperative if you will - where they all share the same database. except the owner of jihang electronics has pretty much memorised the *entire* database.
that and the fact that they were willing to be there during the holidays, tells me what i need to know. they had time for a westerner (me), when several of the suppliers were really very rude (clearly didn't want any business).
now, if i was looking to source 100,000 components it would be a different matter: i'd go haggling on price. but honestly it's worth paying a small percentage more just to be able to go to the one single supplier.
l.
does it come unlocked, support total replacement of the OS down to the bedrock, and provide the full source of all firmware for all on-board ICs? i know the answer's no, so I won't be getting one.
Hmmm.. just use the cam function then @*&! :)
that and the fact that they were willing to be there during the holidays, tells me what i need to know. they had time for a westerner (me), when several of the suppliers were really very rude (clearly didn't want any business).
Avoid conclusions - they may not know English and instructed / can't deal with you. Or they been burned by previous westerners and too tired / bored with it all. The way to break ice is to buy 100 pieces of something you like to ship back to hope you can find a use for it. Having a CN friend there to chat works better - proper respectful introductions are important. They can be senior staff and paying a fortune to be in that building in relative terms and representing a factory of several hundred to thousands of people.
now, if i was looking to source 100,000 components it would be a different matter: i'd go haggling on price. but honestly it's worth paying a small percentage more just to be able to go to the one single supplier.
QA everything - hire a QA guy if you can. Avoid blaming the supplier for anything that goes wrong - just say thank you, and say what changes your want to make it better. They will try their utmost to get it right.
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On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 3:56 PM, joem joem@martindale-electric.co.uk wrote:
does it come unlocked, support total replacement of the OS down to the bedrock, and provide the full source of all firmware for all on-board ICs? i know the answer's no, so I won't be getting one.
Hmmm.. just use the cam function then @*&! :)
that and the fact that they were willing to be there during the holidays, tells me what i need to know. they had time for a westerner (me), when several of the suppliers were really very rude (clearly didn't want any business).
Avoid conclusions - they may not know English and instructed / can't deal with you. Or they been burned by previous westerners and too tired / bored with it all.
i was there during the holiday. they had all the time in the world. if they weren't prepared to make the effort, i am happy to find someone who is. simple filter.
QA everything - hire a QA guy if you can.
luckily i have mike. he's the factory owner - he knows the ropes.
l.
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On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton lkcl@lkcl.net wrote:
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On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 3:56 PM, joem joem@martindale-electric.co.uk wrote:
does it come unlocked, support total replacement of the OS down to the bedrock, and provide the full source of all firmware for all on-board ICs? i know the answer's no, so I won't be getting one.
Hmmm.. just use the cam function then @*&! :)
is the firmware available for the camera? is the driver source code available? is the source code fully GPL-compliant? i'm not playing the illegal software game any more, joe. i've absolutely had it with them.
l.
On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 16:01 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
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On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton lkcl@lkcl.net wrote:
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On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 3:56 PM, joem joem@martindale-electric.co.uk wrote:
does it come unlocked, support total replacement of the OS down to the bedrock, and provide the full source of all firmware for all on-board ICs? i know the answer's no, so I won't be getting one.
Hmmm.. just use the cam function then @*&! :)
is the firmware available for the camera? is the driver source code available? is the source code fully GPL-compliant? i'm not playing the illegal software game any more, joe. i've absolutely had it with them.
Join the queue! :)
Hmmm... then buy one of those cool colour OLED watch cams - or a boring cam with enough resolution.
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On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 4:12 PM, joem joem@martindale-electric.co.uk wrote:
On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 16:01 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton lkcl@lkcl.net wrote:
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On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 3:56 PM, joem joem@martindale-electric.co.uk wrote:
does it come unlocked, support total replacement of the OS down to the bedrock, and provide the full source of all firmware for all on-board ICs? i know the answer's no, so I won't be getting one.
Hmmm.. just use the cam function then @*&! :)
is the firmware available for the camera? is the driver source code available? is the source code fully GPL-compliant? i'm not playing the illegal software game any more, joe. i've absolutely had it with them.
Join the queue! :)
:)
Hmmm... then buy one of those cool colour OLED watch cams
... can't stand things on my wrist: haven't been able to wear watches for about twenty eight years.
- or a boring
cam with enough resolution.
it's another item to carry (and/or forget and/or have stolen) - my rucksack was already packed out.
been doing photos and videos for the crowdfunding campaign and for here on rhombus-tech for four years: if i had room for the camera i would have brought it with me, joe. appreciate the thought though.
l.
idk why the subject of a camera cam up but heres suggestions anyway:
1. what about a replicant option? there have the main camera on the samsung i9100 reverse engineered. no video due to no hw encoding but it can take photos. snags: non-free bootloader :( , no gps. modem is separate from the cpu and ram but is not as isolated as the GTA02/4.
2. cheap non-free action cam without wifi? check out the mobius and theres many other ones, in a gopro formfactor with a screen, idk which is the best of them. there is also Firefly Q6 [2,3] which i find of interest personally due to its form factor and that it has a little menu screen. there is also FOXEER Legend 1 which is has a better video enocde profile [4]. I have a mobius, been happy with it. snag: have to make effort to plug into device and edit the config for low light mode when in dark outdoor places. hench my attraction for the firely q6 and its menu screen. Modbis firmware as received many updates. webcam mode needs more work on it still but all other features i think have been debuged, ive not came across any bugs, put it that way. [6] mobius is a bit more expensive now. so i would try a newer one. snags: these action cams tend to skip on emi shielding, know to be a problem for gps in drones.
3. perhaps the freest and cheapest option, get a Zipit Z2 handheld computer and use a usb 1.1 compatible webcam. i can send you a goodie bag of bits in order to do this. (ie breakout connector, heck even wired up for ya.) check out #zipit irc on freenode and [5] . snags: non-free wifi. but mozzwald has auto build system setup and can compile missing kernel drivers, hes already done athk free ones on request :).
[1] http://redmine.replicant.us/projects/replicant/wiki/GalaxyS2I9100 [2] http://www.gearbest.com/action-cameras/pp_451141.html?wid=21 [3] (120dec version) http://www.gearbest.com/action-cameras/pp_360144.h tml?wid=21 [4]http://www.gearbest.com/fpv-system/pp_452894.html?wid=21 [5] https://mozzwald.com/zipitz2
[6] http://www.banggood.com/Mobius-Full-HD-Sports-Camera-1080P-30FPS-72 0P-60FPS-For-Multirotor-p-90648.html?rmmds=search
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On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Alexander Ross maillist_arm-netbook@aross.me wrote:
idk why the subject of a camera cam up but heres suggestions anyway:
i'm planning to make one using a parallel CSI interface connected to an ingenic M150. 128mb of RAM on-board, can do hardware encoding.
l.
On 08/10/16 02:07, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
i'm planning to make one using a parallel CSI interface connected to an ingenic M150. 128mb of RAM on-board, can do hardware encoding.
Sounds brill. looking forward to it :D. btw i believe/hope its possible to use hardware encoders for vp8/9. with ingenic’s generic hw encoder, i guess its a matter of software? if not what about theora?
cus with these formats, commercial operations using the camera dont have to pay protection money to mpeg-la mafia :)
That would really set the device apart Andrew. I searched for a camera that saves video in webm once. I could only find the Elphel camera, which is expensive and requires further work to make it usable as a stand-alone cam.
Adel
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On 08/10/16 02:07, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
i'm planning to make one using a parallel CSI interface connected to an ingenic M150. 128mb of RAM on-board, can do hardware encoding.
Sounds brill. looking forward to it :D. btw i believe/hope its possible to use hardware encoders for vp8/9. with ingenic’s generic hw encoder, i guess its a matter of software? if not what about theora?
cus with these formats, commercial operations using the camera dont have to pay protection money to mpeg-la mafia :)
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