http://www.vortex86dx.com/?page_id=80
looks like they've got a 2nd version available that has SATA and HDMI. hooray! perfect EOMA68 CPU Card! no 3D GPU but hey you can't have everything: at least it's got PCIe.
l.
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 09:33:00PM +0000, luke.leighton wrote:
http://www.vortex86dx.com/?page_id=80
looks like they've got a 2nd version available that has SATA and HDMI. hooray! perfect EOMA68 CPU Card! no 3D GPU but hey you can't have everything: at least it's got PCIe.
According to our previous experiences, Vortex DX is extraordinairy crappy. That's the old 486 design on steroids ... uhm ... with a new process and more MHz than back in the early 90ies. Last time we looked, it had all kinds of effects, like broken timers, clocks etc.
rsc
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Robert Schwebel r.schwebel@pengutronix.de wrote:
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 09:33:00PM +0000, luke.leighton wrote:
http://www.vortex86dx.com/?page_id=80
looks like they've got a 2nd version available that has SATA and HDMI. hooray! perfect EOMA68 CPU Card! no 3D GPU but hey you can't have everything: at least it's got PCIe.
According to our previous experiences, Vortex DX is extraordinairy crappy. That's the old 486 design on steroids ... uhm ... with a new process and more MHz than back in the early 90ies.
yaay! :)
Last time we looked, it had all kinds of effects, like broken timers, clocks etc.
ah. question. did you use a board with the internal crystal on the SoC, or did you do (or use) a design with an external one?
if "external" then that would be Bad... and i would want to know, for the DX2 and DX3, that they'd fixed that.
i
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 10:12:41PM +0000, luke.leighton wrote:
ah. question. did you use a board with the internal crystal on the SoC, or did you do (or use) a design with an external one?
if "external" then that would be Bad... and i would want to know, for the DX2 and DX3, that they'd fixed that.
I don't know about the details, we used this one: http://www.ssv-comm.de/en/products/esom2586.php
However, it was not nearly in the performance and feature class of even any of the industrial ARM cpus, and that was several years ago.
rsc
What about x86 license? Or because 486 is a 20 year old design, they dont need a license? (Due to patent expiration)
Also even at 1 GHz, I don't know how well could it run modern software. (KDE, Chromium, YouTube, ...)
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 5:48 AM, Robert Schwebel r.schwebel@pengutronix.de wrote:
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 10:12:41PM +0000, luke.leighton wrote:
ah. question. did you use a board with the internal crystal on the SoC, or did you do (or use) a design with an external one?
if "external" then that would be Bad... and i would want to know, for the DX2 and DX3, that they'd fixed that.
I don't know about the details, we used this one: http://www.ssv-comm.de/en/products/esom2586.php
However, it was not nearly in the performance and feature class of even any of the industrial ARM cpus, and that was several years ago.
ok. right. this is the one that's in the nortec (something like that) gecko edubook. i also have a sample of a 9in laptop with it in (the one using the same casework as the GPL-violating CT-PC89e that kicked off this whole project). it runs ubuntu - i don't like ubuntu so i don't know and don't care which version - but it's fully-functional and actually really good. i ran videos through a 25-to-12fps ffmpeg reducer that also dropped them down to 640x320 and they play perfectly well... in the middle of the screen :)
l.
+++ Robert Schwebel [2013-11-28 23:03 +0100]:
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 09:33:00PM +0000, luke.leighton wrote:
http://www.vortex86dx.com/?page_id=80
looks like they've got a 2nd version available that has SATA and HDMI. hooray! perfect EOMA68 CPU Card! no 3D GPU but hey you can't have everything: at least it's got PCIe.
According to our previous experiences, Vortex DX is extraordinairy crappy.
OSes: Debian 4, Ubuntu 8 and Linux 2.4/2.6 is a bit behind the curve too.
Wookey
Where from did they get x86 arch license?
I thought that only Intel, Via and AMD.0 have it. On Nov 28, 2013 11:33 PM, "luke.leighton" luke.leighton@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.vortex86dx.com/?page_id=80
looks like they've got a 2nd version available that has SATA and HDMI. hooray! perfect EOMA68 CPU Card! no 3D GPU but hey you can't have everything: at least it's got PCIe.
l.
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On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 21:33:00 +0000 "luke.leighton" luke.leighton@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.vortex86dx.com/?page_id=80
looks like they've got a 2nd version available that has SATA and HDMI. hooray! perfect EOMA68 CPU Card! no 3D GPU but hey you can't have everything: at least it's got PCIe.
They are not too good with upstream, but free source exists for their 2d block, sound block, and so on. I believe the sound part is merged in current kernels too, though it took years. The 2d driver is of low quality, but as source exists, with some love it could get both performance and less bugs.
As others have said, a 486 at 1 GHz is not too performant, but their existing chips are usable for some tasks.
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