this is mainly a question for joe (and anyone else with schematics review experience!)
the goal is to provide dual-power for the ATSAM4S. atmel recommend using 2 diodes however the voltage for the IO needs to be above 3.0v in order to run USB, the AXP209 can only output 3.3v max and a diode would suck 0.7v off of that.
so i've been advised to use a MOSFET instead, and need to check it's going to work. so here's the schematic that needs checking:
* http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/kde_tablet/rev3_review/atsam_vddio_power.png
* note the diode which provides backup power (from the AXP209 RTC supply)
* also i'd like to use the AXP209's "PWROK" signal to control when the ATSAM4S powers up. the datasheet says it's "HIGH" when power is "OK" and it starts off "LOW" when the AXP209 starts up.
as the AXP209 PWROK signal is "HIGH" when "OK", that's why i *believe* that the transistor (Q6) is needed, to invert that so that when PWROK is "HIGH", the MOSFET delivers power.
greatly appreciated a quick review of that logic.
l.
please disregard, going to have to use [another] SY6280
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 12:04 PM, luke.leighton luke.leighton@gmail.com wrote:
this is mainly a question for joe (and anyone else with schematics review experience!)
the goal is to provide dual-power for the ATSAM4S. atmel recommend using 2 diodes however the voltage for the IO needs to be above 3.0v in order to run USB, the AXP209 can only output 3.3v max and a diode would suck 0.7v off of that.
so i've been advised to use a MOSFET instead, and need to check it's going to work. so here's the schematic that needs checking:
http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/kde_tablet/rev3_review/atsam_vddio_power.png
note the diode which provides backup power (from the AXP209 RTC supply)
also i'd like to use the AXP209's "PWROK" signal to control when the
ATSAM4S powers up. the datasheet says it's "HIGH" when power is "OK" and it starts off "LOW" when the AXP209 starts up.
as the AXP209 PWROK signal is "HIGH" when "OK", that's why i *believe* that the transistor (Q6) is needed, to invert that so that when PWROK is "HIGH", the MOSFET delivers power.
greatly appreciated a quick review of that logic.
l.
On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 12:04 +0000, luke.leighton wrote:
this is mainly a question for joe (and anyone else with schematics review experience!)
the goal is to provide dual-power for the ATSAM4S. atmel recommend using 2 diodes however the voltage for the IO needs to be above 3.0v in order to run USB, the AXP209 can only output 3.3v max and a diode would suck 0.7v off of that.
so i've been advised to use a MOSFET instead, and need to check it's going to work. so here's the schematic that needs checking:
http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/kde_tablet/rev3_review/atsam_vddio_power.png
note the diode which provides backup power (from the AXP209 RTC supply)
also i'd like to use the AXP209's "PWROK" signal to control when the
ATSAM4S powers up. the datasheet says it's "HIGH" when power is "OK" and it starts off "LOW" when the AXP209 starts up.
as the AXP209 PWROK signal is "HIGH" when "OK", that's why i *believe* that the transistor (Q6) is needed, to invert that so that when PWROK is "HIGH", the MOSFET delivers power.
greatly appreciated a quick review of that logic.
It will work as you describe it. You can replace diodes like 1N4148 with SS16 or similar schottky diode - their voltage drop is 0.2 to 0.3V. They are rated 1A / 60V (farnell stocks them) - check to make sure the current and voltage is handled as needed.
perfect. thanks.
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:18 PM, joem joem@martindale-electric.co.uk wrote:
On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 12:04 +0000, luke.leighton wrote:
this is mainly a question for joe (and anyone else with schematics review experience!)
the goal is to provide dual-power for the ATSAM4S. atmel recommend using 2 diodes however the voltage for the IO needs to be above 3.0v in order to run USB, the AXP209 can only output 3.3v max and a diode would suck 0.7v off of that.
so i've been advised to use a MOSFET instead, and need to check it's going to work. so here's the schematic that needs checking:
http://hands.com/~lkcl/eoma/kde_tablet/rev3_review/atsam_vddio_power.png
note the diode which provides backup power (from the AXP209 RTC supply)
also i'd like to use the AXP209's "PWROK" signal to control when the
ATSAM4S powers up. the datasheet says it's "HIGH" when power is "OK" and it starts off "LOW" when the AXP209 starts up.
as the AXP209 PWROK signal is "HIGH" when "OK", that's why i *believe* that the transistor (Q6) is needed, to invert that so that when PWROK is "HIGH", the MOSFET delivers power.
greatly appreciated a quick review of that logic.
It will work as you describe it. You can replace diodes like 1N4148 with SS16 or similar schottky diode - their voltage drop is 0.2 to 0.3V. They are rated 1A / 60V (farnell stocks them) - check to make sure the current and voltage is handled as needed.
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On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 13:48 +0000, luke.leighton wrote:
perfect. thanks.
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:18 PM, joem joem@martindale-electric.co.uk wrote:
On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 12:04 +0000, luke.leighton wrote:
this is mainly a question for joe (and anyone else with schematics review experience!)
the goal is to provide dual-power for the ATSAM4S. atmel recommend using 2 diodes however the voltage for the IO needs to be above 3.0v in order to run USB, the AXP209 can only output 3.3v max and a diode would suck 0.7v off of that.
so i've been advised to use a MOSFET instead, and need to check it's going to work. so here's the schematic that needs checking:
hmmmp....
I just scanned it again - notice a problem - the WNM2306 is an n-FET. You need a p-FET with similar ratings to work it correctly. : Also when fitting FETs, use the FET symbol with FETs (such as for the 2N7002) to avoid layout problems.
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 3:46 PM, joem joem@martindale-electric.co.uk wrote:
On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 13:48 +0000, luke.leighton wrote:
perfect. thanks.
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:18 PM, joem joem@martindale-electric.co.uk wrote:
On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 12:04 +0000, luke.leighton wrote:
this is mainly a question for joe (and anyone else with schematics review experience!)
the goal is to provide dual-power for the ATSAM4S. atmel recommend using 2 diodes however the voltage for the IO needs to be above 3.0v in order to run USB, the AXP209 can only output 3.3v max and a diode would suck 0.7v off of that.
so i've been advised to use a MOSFET instead, and need to check it's going to work. so here's the schematic that needs checking:
hmmmp....
I just scanned it again - notice a problem - the WNM2306 is an n-FET. You need a p-FET with similar ratings to work it correctly.
you missed the message saying "please disregard". i've already replaced this with an SS12.
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