On 2016-04-29 at 14:21:12 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
that's fine, because it's outside of the remit of the company that got the RYF Certificate. skype is *not* in a GNU repository, or in the debian repository, or in any repository at all. it's not
actually, skype is in one ubuntu repository, which if I'm not mistaken at least trisquel users could add
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
3rd party repositories for other proprietary software are often available and adding them usually requires just about the same level of tech-expertise as adding non-free to debian (or to gNewSense).
i don't really like to use the words "idiots" - let's call them "average end-users" instead (examples include "grandma" or "busy secretary" or "7-year-old" or "49-year-old farm mechanic and cattle breeder")
actually, 'grandma' tends to be quite discriminatory and offensive, considering that a woman can easily be of grandma age and still be an IT professional (probably near retirement, but not necessarily).
average end-users simply cannot cope with the "jumping through hoops"
- they haven't got time. if they really need to, they'll go buy a
windows PC. or a mac. and that's fine. we're not catering to them, and neither is the FSF.
so it is fine for anybody who is not a tech expert to be forced to buy a mainstream spying device, while software freedom is just for people who can afford spending their time jumping through hoops?