On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 09:41:07PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 04:02:23PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
for example, until i discovered that angband.pl actively maintains systemd-less debian packages for xorg, udev, pulseaudio and several critical pre-systemd packages (including consolekit), i was forced to make an extremely risky *MANUAL* removal of systemd. that included REMOVING udev entirely and MANUALLY maintaining entries in /dev (!) i also had to add a hundred entries into /etc/modules - some of which i could not determine so had to actually not have access to critical hardware for a considerable amount of time.
For the record, I feel called on to point out that Devuan has done most of that for you, but I suspect that you already know that, and it wasn't ready at the time.
So you other guys: If you're removing systemd from Debian, just use Devuan instead -- it's already (mostly) been done for you!
In another thread someone mentioned trusting people. I trust the maintainer of angband.pl generally more than maintainers of Devuan, from observed behavior.