On Sun, 08 Dec 2013 02:34:12 +0100 "Aaron J. Seigo" aseigo@kde.org wrote:
On Saturday, December 7, 2013 03:19:50 Siarhei Siamashka wrote:
PS. I'm a little bit surprised that Aaron immediately assumed that this weird behaviour is somehow the typical user experience, which needs to be documented on the wiki. I also hope that the other
Fair question.
It turns out that this “weird behaviour” has been run into by several others previously.
I would have actually expected you to provide some link or other clear reference to support this statement.
There have even been workaround put into use, as you noted.
What kind of workaround do you mean?
Now, where is that documented? It isn’t (unless you count google as documentation ;)
Wait a second. Are you sending me to google now?
What makes me unhappy is that you really show no restraint. The first thing you do immediately after making an appearance is bashing your upstream (the kernel and drivers you use are from linux-sunxi, right?):
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.netbook.arm/8451 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.netbook.arm/8459
You don't even bother to give us at least a few days to investigate the issue and help to resolve your problem. The opengles issue has been first reported here:
http://irclog.whitequark.org/linux-sunxi/2013-12-05#5775192;
And now Marco Martin ("notmart" on irc) apparently made some progress:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.netbook.arm/8466
So is the opengles issue fully resolved now? I would like to know the details and whether any help or other actions are still needed from our side. Thanks.
I understand that you have been semi-secretly developing your hardware for some time already and naturally might have had some difficulties with using linux-sunxi kernel and related software on it. But after finally going public, instantly venting out your frustration and spitting in the well you are drinking from does not look very civilized. I guess here is one more related rant from you:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+AaronSeigo/posts/JDdvLDJESm5
So far I can see that it is you, who is having issues with poor communication in the processes of your own little project, but quite amusingly trying to blame this on someone else.
and so when people run into issues they are left with very little to go on. How much better if that information was captured somewhere for easy discovery and follow up.
"numerous gotchas" are going to be properly reported to the linux-sunxi developers.
Not all are relevant to linux-sunxi, those that we run into that are we will definitely communicate them to you.
Nice. Thanks.
Still if at least some of the gotchas are relevant to linux-sunxi (you are being a little bit ambiguous again), then your rant from the other day should have included the links to your bugreports right from the start. I expect no less from somebody who claims to be advocating good software development practices.
And by the way, I don't represent the whole linux-sunix community here (I'm only a minor contributor at best). So "communicate them to you" does not sound right and "communicate them to linux-sunxi people" is more appropriate.