On 04/21/2017 08:19 PM, John Luke Gibson wrote:
Having less proprietary software, means less backdoors, less surveillance, less knowledge barriers, less remote theft of computing resources, etc. It's not perfect, but it's less of the disturbing stuff.
I agree with that thought process, but its still not ideal or as good as it should be.
System76 isn't really a good idea due to the ubuntu and linux rather than even debian or free software and libre... Trisquel would be by far better free software wise, but I think you get my point, Ubuntu is nowhere near as free software friendly as debian. at least by default without turning it into trisquel. I am sure thinkpenguin knows this all too well.
libreboot is not ideal either, because it uses crappy intel processors even if the intel me is removed, and there are other issues which are problematic... which is why eoma68 standard is greatly needed in this world.
On 4/21/17, John Luke Gibson eaterjolly@gmail.com wrote:
Let's do bear in mind that they do have real reasons for keeping proprietary blobs in their systems. While these reasons do not measure to the ethical concerns, think about this in terms of a much more grossly obvious circumstance: if a barbarian kills two people in bandit raids everyday, and you convince that barbarian to kill one less person each day, then yes they are still killing, but you're not in the end compromising your principles by making the observation that the situation is better and are in no way contradicting those morals by praising the barbarian for being less murderous. Obviously this is a gross comparison but I think it demonstrates a universal principle very well.
On 4/21/17, Stefan Monnier monnier@iro.umontreal.ca wrote:
Compromise is a trap and why theres no libre wifi and gpus
Lyberta talked about (and I responded about) "respect", not "compromise" or even "collaborate".
Stefan
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