On 09/20/2016 11:58 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 9:30 AM, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de wrote:
For example, Wikipedia has a hierarchy. It may not be perfect, but I doubt it would work without one. Anarchies don’t have a single person or only few people at the top, but they do, in my terminology, have hierarchies as well.
if there is *anybody* over the top of *anybody* within a group, then by *definition* it has an "over-arching decision-maker", and thus is *by definition* no longer an an-archy.
With this strict definition of anarchy instead of self-governance, voluntary institutions etc., yes.
i would agree with you that there are different contexts.
for example: a parent with a 2-year-old child, living within an an-archic society, *clearly* would not place their 18-month-old child's decision-making capacity at the same priority / level as that of themselves! funnily enough this has actually been partially taken into account, already, within the "bill of ethics", as covered by the section on "awareness of self-awareness".
to cater for this, we define "groups". the above example would be a family "group" where they have their own entirely self-determined way of dealing with and interacting with each other. the members of that "group" would make the decision to interact with other "groups" (of one or more people) in their organised an-archic pre-agreed fashion.
now, to expand the example even further, it may be the case that these "groups" operate within the laws of a particular country, where the "Hierarchical Ruler" of that country expects their laws to be obeyed as a priority over-and-above that of any "group decisions". thus we can see, a "group" has to set a specific focus of their activities which do *not* encompass *all* aspects of their lives.
thus, my point is: we may set an "an-archic" decision-making process to cover very very specific goals (such as Visa's early example showed) - Visa's example certainly did not specifiy that the employees had to blatantly disobey traffic laws, tax laws, or other "Hierarchical-based" power structures that have nothing to do with the day-to-day running of the Visa corporation as an Organised Anarchy!
I agree. Your strict, more literal definition of anarchy can exist within limits. Some might call a more complete (political) system with “voluntary” hierarchies an anarchy too even though it is not truly without leaders, but that sense is not literal.
More relevant here is that an anti-harassment policy / code of conduct is so uncontroversial that having one helps and does not hurt for organizations.
it's a slippery slope, and it's not going to happen - that's the end of it.
I mostly wanted to have this discussion for convincing you that a code of conduct is a good idea for a larger organization.
... and i don't believe that it's a good idea (at all) to even *have* a code of conduct for a larger organisation, other than to make it absolutely clear that there is a goal, that the goal SHALL be reached ethically and by unanimous decision-making, and that anyone who gets in the way of achieving that goal SHALL be removed from the team.
my belief is that the "bill of ethics" is sufficient to be *the* top-level document, and my analysis leads me to believe that it is sufficiently strong and sufficiently clear that even *attempting* to add a "code of conduct" is not only superfluous but would also destroy the document's integrity.
in true respect *of* the "bill of ethics" however, there is no certainty in that statement: there is only "very high confidence statistical probability as empirically shown so far" :)
OK, I hope there will never be disputes about whether a …ist joke really was so unethical.
Interesting. I’m not sure if the problem of mobility really can be “solved”, but trying to improve what we have seems good.
learning the lesson from EOMA68, if you appeal to people's wallets, they'll go for it. the fact that it's eco-conscious is just "icing on the cake". divergentmicrofactories.com has the story about how 80% of the environmental damage is done even before the vehicle rolls off the sales court. that's translates to an enormous cost-saving... just by 3D printing aluminium nodes on-site and slotting carbon-fibre tubes into them, to make up a chassis weighing in at only 30kg (as opposed to 1,000 to 2,500 kg for a steel car / SUV).
I believe sustainable mobility requires that we demand less with respect to speed, reach etc. and not only hope for better technology. A light 30kg chassis sounds nice but less safe in a high-speed crash. If an appeal to wallets works then only with a shift in peoples’ priorities. I don’t know though.