--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 7:40 PM, chadvellacott@sasktel.net wrote:
On 16.9.12 0:25, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
> > On ~, Sep 10, 2016 at 11:47 PM, <chadvellacott@sasktel.net> wrote:On 16.9.9 20:41, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>>> >>> On ~~, Sep 10, 2016 at 2:25 AM, Sam Pablo Kuper >>> >>> <sampablokuper@posteo.net> wrote: >>> >>>> "By using the Service to accept Pre-orders, you as the Creator are >>>> offering Users the opportunity to enter into an agreement with you. By >>>> using the Service to place a Pre-order, you as the Customer accept that >>>> offer and the agreement between Customer and Creator is formed. Crowd >>>> Supply is not a party to the agreement between the Customer and >>>> Creator. >>>> All dealings related to Pre-orders are solely between Users, regardless >>>> of the Company’s role as an intermediary." >>>> >>>> Seems pretty clear to me :) >>> >>> >>> >>> hmm.... have to think about that, as i can't come back in the USA and >>> bring in anything that could be construed as a "sample". >>> >>> l. >>> >> Would it work to just ship those items, from outside of the "US", >> like >> "MiniFree" or "Kano" seem to or seemed to? At least for shipping TO >> addresses outside of the "US"? > > > we need to work out if it's cheaper to ship everything first to the > US and then outwards from there (because there's no customs duty, just > a one-off "fee" that pales into insignificance). certainly, sea > freight (which is by volume) would be a lot lower than air freight > (which is by weight). > > i've been trusting the amounts that both chris and joshua > independently use: they're both experienced at this. me, i'm just > getting my head down into the PCBs etc. for now - logistics comes > later. > > l. >I have been aiming, to "pre-order" in the next few days. But, how likely, do you think, shall you be able to FILL "pre-orders"? If how you will respond to "pre-ordering" is "up in the air", then me "pre-ordering" now, might result in hassle for both of us, rather than be of benefit to both of us.
right. this is an open project: it's not like a "profit maximising company" where they do their absolute best to hide absolutely everything except the "positive marketing messages" such as "we're now shipping!!!! so you can trust us!!!! give us yer money!!!!"
ordinarily, if an "employee" said "i don't know" it wouldn't matter, would it? you'd *never know* that he'd said "i don't know", or that the manager who had been asked to find out had to go back the boss and say "we don't know", would you?
here's the thing: *everybudy* doesn't really "know" until it actually happens. you "don't know" if there's going to be an earthquake in Taiwan which destroys the foundries (this happened a few years ago), or some floods or a fire will destroy the DDR RAM factories (which also happened a few years ago), or the factory where things are being manufactured might have a fire (as happened with the NexDock - it started in the factory next door and spread, destroying 50% of the stock).
to make judgements based on these kinds of things, where you *don't know* if they're going to happen or not - is part and parcel of life... *not* just this campaign.
bottom line, it's up to you to decide. just be aware that you're getting an honest glimpse into a world you've never seen before, in just the same way that the openpandora and openmoko operated a decade ago.
l.