On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 11:01:25PM +0000, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
On Monday, November 21, 2022, Paul Boddie paul@boddie.org.uk wrote:
On Monday, 21 November 2022 22:38:48 CET Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
wrote:
paul, apologies, i misread. let me start again.
On Monday, November 21, 2022, Paul Boddie paul@boddie.org.uk wrote:
One is too busy and directs us to the other who is incommunicative.
this is the bit that is ambiguous and caused me to misunderstand. whom is "one" and whom is "the other" when there are *three* potential parties involved?
OK, when someone is asked by Crowd Supply to contact the creators
directly,
you (as creator #1) are evidently too busy
no, this is wrong. or, factually misleading. the 93 Cards are at *Think Penguin's premises*.
i have spent 18 months persistently attempting communication to recover those Cards.
we are WAITING for the results of TESTING of those Cards.
proceeding with the manufacture of the remaining 800 is a HUGE RISK without information on the state of the 93 that are WITHELD by Chris of Think Penguin.
i am waiting JUST AS MUCH AS YOU ARE.
there is no further action i can take beyond repeating that the course of action is for ALL OF YOU to CONTACT CHRISTOPHER WAID.
and have directed us to Christopher Waid (as creator #2) who is incommunicative.
i repeat.
once again.
public pressure from multiple sources and backers is our last best chance.
it will require multiple people, systematically, and it will require those people to put the resultant conversations onto publicly-accessible Social Media, especially forums where Thinkpenguin customers are likely to be present in some numbers.
this type of action will cause Chris to lose business if he does not respond to paying customers, which should be sufficient to finally get him to respond.
it is uncomfortable, but tough: i cannot protect him any longer from the consequences of his failure to communicate.
Personally, I find it all a bit perplexing. Although I know that you
brought
Mr Waid into the effort with there apparently being some particular
interest
from him in the laptop, I would imagine that most people following this project would have expected you to bring the effort to completion
yourself:
fuck no, you must be absolutely kidding. you cannot possibly be serious.
if you genuinely believe that then you cannot possibly have been reading the updates where i specifically request assistance and remind everyone systematically that this is and always has been a COMMUNITY project where it lives and dies on what people help out with.
examples include writing documentation, wiki pages, developing linux kernel support, u-boot patches and getting OS Support up and running. none of which i can possibly be expected to handle alone.
i also go to some lengths to repeatedly state that as a Certification Mark Holder i am NOT PERMITTED TO SELL PRODUCT because it is a Conflict of Interest with the role and responsibility of a Certification Mark Holder.
once again, from the top:
it places the ENTIRE PROJECT AT RISK to proceed with the manufacture of the remaining Cards without first testing the 93 that are being witheld by Chrstopher Waid at his business premises.
Mike needs to know if the yield was 95% or if it was 5%.
we have no idea.
91 of those Cards could be FAULTY and CHRIS HAS NOT TOLD US
without knowing what the fault might be, Mike is risking proceeding to manufacture A THOUSAND FAULTY UNRECOVERABLE CARDS
at which point this project will have no other choice but to be declared terminated.
so will you please
will you please
for god's sake
stop arguing
stop speculating
and please
please
LISTEN
and HELP
by CONTACTING CHRISTOPHER WAID
to ask him very simply: "where are the 93 Cards"
so that we can send a Courier round to recover them, get them to Portland, so that Joshua can test them.
l.
This whole conversation is making me wonder if Chris is still alive.
-- hendrik
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