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> There's probably no help with them unless you can show them the useful
> FLOSS term, point out that the Open Source Definition derives from
> the Debian Free Software Guidelines (and has since been rather
> disclaimed by one of its authors).
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> Libre guarantees slightly more than open source :)

 i know that, you know that.... but they've taken the libre definition
of the "four freedoms", transliterated it to a hardware world... and
called it OPEN HARDWARE (!!!)