On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Lauri Kasanen cand@gmx.com wrote:
You make a decent argument, however all the issues were pointed out to them during the laptop campaigns again and again, and they did not learn; they repeated them with this phone. That's willfull ignorance if not outright malevolence.
- They advertised the laptop as 100% free, when it could not be so due
to ME. 2. They advertised it would ship with coreboot, when it did not until several months after release.
Deceptive advertising, and they repeated the same thing with the phone. Even if we want somebody to succeed in a less-free device, do we want them to be the people who willfully deceive in order to do so?
Honestly I don't really care. I look at the end result. Their advertisement pisses me off to no end, but at least they got something done. As it stands right now they are the no.2 most free and secure laptop manufacturer out there. If our community is so twisted that we need someone to decieve us to get people reverse engineering the intel ME just to "show them" or whatever happened, then I say well deserved. So unless some engineer comes out libv-style with proof that "I spent x amount of my time for purism to take advantage of it and I got nothing in return" my purchase decision will not change. So far all that they lied about was the timeframe at which they would ship the features, but not the features themselves. So no biggie for me. Also in regards to RYF certification I remember rms saying he wished amd would burn their firmware blobs for their gpus to rom so they could grand RYF to their cards. Sounds a bit of a foolish way to grand RYF, but if purism follows the same idea( which according to the campaign page they intend to) they might actually get it.